I know of a couple people that have bought dogs from this kennel. Great dogs from what I've heard. I know they have a website and you can also do a Google search for the APLA. They have a forum that you can read threads on that particular kennel and people that have gotten their dogs. I've been to that website often and believe that there is someone from the kennel that has been very helpful in answering questions on their dogs, pointing labs and other options available to you. Good luck.